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Subject: STALKING WEIRDO (Richard Leslie is Kevin
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Date: 16 Jan 2001 03:06:46 GMT
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STALKING WEIRDO
KEVIN L. GROSS aka RICHARD LESLIE
This page is dedicated to Kevin L. Gross aka
Richard Leslie. He is owner/operator of the Usenet news server, Randori.com.
Kevin Gross stalks individual users through Usenet postings. Once he learns
a posters patterns he follows those posts to the victim. There is an obcession
with stalking individual users which is proven by his posting habits to
news.admin.net-abuse.sightings under the alias of Richard Leslie.
During March 1999 I was a customer of randori.com
/ Kevin Gross. I had paid $30.00 for 3 months access and was cut off after
two days service. On day one I posted a few cartoons to the news groups
with utmost caution. Shortly after I received a rude email telling me my
service was cut. I called Kevin Gross to request a refund. He literally
began screaming at the top of his lungs over the phone. (If you ever heard
a crack head go ballistic, you would notice like Kevin they spit while
screaming and stammering.) He used every foul word and combination possible
on me. He refused the prorated refund. And threatened
if I called back for a refund he would charge
my credit card an extra $50.00. He banged the phone in my ear and I called
back. He began laughing and stated he charged the card the extra $50.00
and asked what was
I going to do about it? He also swore that he
would have the site off line
no matter what he had to do, even if it were
the last thing he did in life... (Notice the sites up and running 18 months
later.) Immediately I called my card company and told them about the incident.
Apparently Kevin Gross charged more then the $50.00 to the card which was
successfully disputed and all fund's were returned by the bank. Personal
information from the credit card transaction was spread from him to others
on the net.
_NEVER TRUST KEVIN L. GROSS or RANDORI.COM with your CREDIT CARD_ information.
By this time Kevin Gross was familar with my posting procedures from his own server. Proceeding my dispute Kevin Gross began to harass my server imagiware.com. He obtained a list of their customers and began threatening damage to them if they kept my site online. He emailed the individual customers, hosts and upstream's with his tantrum's. At one point Kevin Gross screwed up and mentioned a conversation that was between only the two of us to my server. To cover it up he changed his name to Richard Leslie. He claimed he read a verbal dispute on the newsgroups and felt inclined to help. As mentioned before, Kevin Gross was oriented to where I posted from his server, so for him to be right there while he was simultaneously trying to have my site damaged was more then coincedental.
Later I joined usenetserver.com I posted from
there with permission to post specific images to certain groups. Afterwards
Kevin Gross began sending complaints to Dwight Rinderele. When Dwight refused
to pull the account Kevin Gross threatened to pull usenetserver.com's feed
since Kevin Gross was their upstream provider. Dwight apologized to me
for it and explained it was sacrificing one to save many other's.
Kevin Gross began calling my out of state providers
to have the account(s) pulled. Not only did he identify himself at this
point, he was also caught on the caller ID box several times. He began
telling larger stories claiming I was a notorious email spammer. Though,
nothing exists even implying that I email spammed ever. That tactic never
worked for him either. I believe its worth mentioning how far he will go,
as this is the same character that wants to do business with you at news.randori.com
and http://www.randori.com
This story will be continued, along with Kevins
child porno groups and other things...